Friday, March 29, 2024

The National Catholic Reporter, Crux, Commonweal and the Tablet are obsolete now – Catholics know that they can interpret Vatican Council II rationally, traditionally and always with the hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition. Times have changed.

 

The National Catholic Reporter, Crux, Commonweal and the Tablet are obsolete now – Catholics know that they can interpret Vatican Council II rationally, traditionally and always with the hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition. Times have changed. The NCR can now affirm the ecclesiology of the old Roman Missal in harmony with Vatican Council II.  The ecclesiology of the Latin Mass is supported by the Council.

NO DENIAL

Joan Chittister, Helen Prejean, Father Thomas Reese sj, Nicole Winfield, Cindy Wooden, John Allen Jr (ex-NCR) and other contributors of the NCR make an objective and factual error in their interpretation of Vatican Council II. No one denies it or is willing to comment.


John Allen Jr., ex-NCR now with Cruz News regularly interprets Vatican Council II unethically.He is here promoting a computer app.called Magisterium.com. It also interprets the Creeds, Councils and Catechism with an irrational premise i.e invisible people are visible in 2024, LG 81,14,15,16 refer to physically visible cases in 2024. There has been no  from John Allen and his wife Elise Ann over the years.

NO COMMENT FROM THE NCR

I mentioned on this blog yesterday that 'the  correspondents of the National Catholic Reporter agree with me. They are Feeneyites on extra ecclesiam nulla salus when they interpret Vatican Council II, rationally and honestly. They have the same theological position as the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Richmond, New Hampshire, on the dogma EENS and Vatican Council II (rational). There is no denial from any one at the liberal left National Catholic Reporter.' I have e-mailed them.

If the NCR interpreted Vatican Council II rationally (invisible cases of LG 16 etc are invisible in 2024) they would return to Tradition.

When Vatican Council II is interpreted with LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2 and GS 22 being only hypothetical cases in 2024 and so non objective cases and so not exceptions for the dogma EENS, the exclusivist Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the ecclesiocentric Athanasius Creed, they hold the same doctrines on salvation as the traditionalists. The NCR, with Vatican Council II ( rational) affirms the ecclesiology of the Latin Mass of the 16th century. They are in harmony with the St. Benedict Centers in the USA.

If the NCR interpreted Vatican Council II rationally (invisible cases of LG 16 are invisible) then they would be affirming ‘the strict interpretation of EENS’, the Feeneyite version of the Church Councils which defined EENS (1215 Fourth Lateran Council etc). The NCR has an obligation to correct itself on Vatican Council II and EENS since this is the norm of the Catholic Church. It is not the teaching of only the religious community the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. 

Catholics in general need to help the NCR correct its mistake. This is not only the responsibilty of the St. Benedict Center in New Hampshire.

The line in purple decides if Vatican Council II is traditional or liberal.

I repeat, interpreting Vatican Council II and EENS rationally, honestly and traditionally, is not only the responsibility of the St. Benedict Centers of Fr. Leonard Feeney in the USA.Since now Vatican Council II ( AG 7) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( 845,846) are Feeneyite.

All Catholic religious communities, all, must interpret Vatican Council II rationally in harmony with Tradition in general.

We now know that the liberalism in the Church has come through Vatican Council II, irrational i.e. invisible cases of Lumen Gentium 16 (being saved in ignorance, a good conscience and with no fault of the person), for example, are interpreted as being visible examples of salvation outside the Church in 1965-2024 and so are objective exceptions for the dogma EENS and the traditional ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church.

The general liberalism is foreign to the Church. It cannot exist in the name of Vatican Council II, which can only be interpreted rationally. There is only one ethical choice.

OBLIGATION TO BE ETHICAL

The NCR has an obligation, ethically, to only interpret Vatican Council II rationally i.e. LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, and GS 22 in Vatican Council refer to only hypothetical cases in 2024. It means there are no exceptions in Vatican Council II), for the past ecclesiocentrism of the Church. The past exclusivist ecclesiology must now be supported by all religious communities and not only the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary at the St. Benedict Centers.

PAPAL DOCUMENTS BASED UPON VATICAN COUNCIL II IRRATIONAL

The NCR, Catholic News Service, Catholic News Agency etc can no more justify , Amoris Laetitia , Traditionis Custode and Fiducia Supplicans in the name of Vatican Council II. Since the Council must be interpreted only rationally by all- Catholics and non Catholics. These Church Documents were issued with Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally and dishonestly.

TRADITIONALISTS FORTE IS VATICAN COUNCIL II

It is the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary whose forte is now Vatican Council II and the NCR is on the defensive.

1)         The NCR has not been able to issue a statement/report/article on Vatican Council II as interpreted rationally by Brother Andre Marie micm, Prior, Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, St. Benedict Center, Richmond, NH, USA.

2)       Neither is the NCR able to comment on the reports which state that the Prefect of Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith and journalists in Rome ( Nicole Winfied, AP etc) interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally.If they would interpret the Council rationally and so ethically,  they would be Feeneyite on EENS like the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary in New Hampshire.

3. The faculty of theology and the rector of the University of St. Thomas Aquinas (Angelicum) in Rome, agree with me. LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, and GS 22 etc can only be interpreted as being invisible people. They are  are always only invisible in 2024.The NCR, like Reuters and the Associated Press, are not willing to interview the Theology Faculty at the Angelicum and neither the Master General of the Dominicans. There is no comment from the NCR.

CATHOLIC ANSWERS

4. Catholic Answers (Jimmy Akins/ Karl Keating) for political reasons avoids being ecclesiocentric. So their apologists  interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc as referring to physically visible examples of salvation outside the Church in the present times. They adapt this objective error to their liberal apologetics.

FEENEYISM WAS THE NORM OVER THE CENTURIES

Over the centuries the Church was Feeneyite, since the baptism of desire etc were interpreted rationally (invisible cases are invisible). Feeneyism was the norm for all Catholics. It is the same today with Vatican Council II interpreted rationally. Feeneyism is not restricted to the St. Benedict Centers in New Hampshire, Massachusetts and Los Angeles, USA. Religious communities from, Poland, Hungary etc, who are now in Rome, are still Feeneyite. Religious communities  which have correctly rejected Vatican Council II, irrational and the objective mistake in the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston are still traditional and Feeneyite.-Lionel Andrades


MARCH 28, 2024

The correspondents of the National Catholic Reporter agree with me. They are Feeneyites on extra ecclesiam nulla salus when they interpret Vatican Council II, rationally and honestly. They have the same theological position as the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Richmond, New Hampshire, on the dogma EENS and Vatican Council II (rational).There is no denial from any one at the liberal left National Catholic Reporter

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/03/the-correspondents-of-national-catholic.html


MARCH 27, 2024

We are all saying the same thing when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally : Brother Andre Marie micm, Fr. Georges de Laire and the correspondents of the National Catholic Reporter : All are Feeneyites on EENS

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/03/we-are-all-saying-same-thing-when.html

from The National Catholic Reporter

In that dispute, the Diocese of Manchester had accused the Saint Benedict Center in Richmond, New Hampshire, of violating canon law, according to Todd & Weld. The Saint Benedict Center and its members, who call themselves, Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, had promoted the position held by their founder, a Jesuit priest named Leonard Feeney, that salvation is only possible through the Catholic Church.

Feeney, who died in 1978, was excommunicated for this view, though he was later reconciled to the church.

The Southern Poverty Law Center also added the center to a list of hate groups in 2007 for its members' antisemitic beliefs.

In 2019, the Diocese of Manchester forbade Catholics from participating in activities with the center and the center from calling itself Catholic because they said that they had warned the group that their position is contrary to Vatican teaching.Right-wing Catholic outlet Church Militant to close in April

https://www.ncronline.org/news/right-wing-catholic-outlet-church-militant-close-april


 

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Thursday, March 28, 2024

Feeneyite Sam Sawyer s.j

 


Sam Sawyer s.j is the editor of the Jesuit magazine America. He is a Feeneyite on extra ecclesiam nulla salus like Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston. He has only one option. It is to accept Vatican Council II and interpret it only rationally. The conclusion: the Jesuits return to Tradition once again.

Interestingly, the first editor of the magazine America was Fr. Leonard Feeney.

The previous editors of America have never disputed what I have written on this blog Eucharist and Mission, and posted to them.

-Lionel Andrades


https://www.americamagazine.org/voices/sam-sawyer-sj

The correspondents of the National Catholic Reporter agree with me. They are Feeneyites on extra ecclesiam nulla salus when they interpret Vatican Council II, rationally and honestly. They have the same theological position as the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Richmond, New Hampshire, on the dogma EENS and Vatican Council II (rational).There is no denial from any one at the liberal left National Catholic Reporter.

 

The correspondents of the National Catholic Reporter agree with me. They are Feeneyites on extra ecclesiam nulla salus when they interpret Vatican Council II, rationally and honestly. They have the same theological position as the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Richmond, New Hampshire, on the dogma EENS and Vatican Council II (rational).There is no denial from any one at the liberal left National Catholic Reporter.

When Vatican Council II is interpreted with LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2 and GS 22 being only hypothetical cases in 2024 and so non objective cases and so not exceptions for the dogma EENS, the exclusivist Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the ecclesiocentric Athanasius Creed, they hold the same doctrines on salvation as the traditionalists. The NCR affirms the ecclesiology of the Latin Mass of the 16th century. They are in harmony with the St.Benedict Centers in the USA. -Lionel Andrades



MARCH 27, 2024



We are all saying the same thing when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally : Brother Andre Marie micm, Fr. Georges de Laire and the correspondents of the National Catholic Reporter : All are Feeneyites on EENS

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/03/we-are-all-saying-same-thing-when.html


 Heidi Schlumpf  hschlumpf@ncronline.org 
Christopher White    cwhite@ncronline.org
Brian Faga  bfraga@ncronline.org
 Michael Sean Winters mswkna@aol.com
Stephanie Yeagle   syeagle@ncronline.org
 Joshua McElwee  jmcelwee@ncronline.org



DECEMBER 6, 2019

NOVEMBER 5, 2019

These are great days- when I say that Michael Sean Winters and Massimo Faggioli interpret Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) like the traditionalist Brother Andre Marie MICM- and there is no denial from them. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/these-are-great-days-when-i-say-that.html

NOVEMBER 4, 2019
Michael Sean Winters affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) since if asked he would say that the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) and LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to invisible and not visible people in 2019. So they are not practical exceptions to the past ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return and exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. I have sent him e-mails of these posts and there is no contradiction from him. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/michael-sean-winters-affirms-strict.html

 NOVEMBER 3, 2019
Michael Sean Winters affirms Vatican Council II and also the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) since the Council supports Feeneyite EENS when it is interpreted rationally.The Council is Feeneyite.He agrees with me.When he supports Fr. Leonard Feeney on EENS he is not in schism since the Council does the same when interpreted rationally. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/michael-sean-winters-affirms-vatican.html

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The National Catholic Reporter cannot keep posting  reviews of books on Vatican Council II,  in which the authors make the same mistake ( Graphics ) https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-national-catholic-reporter-cannot.html

FALSE PREMISE DEFINED  
Their false premise is:-
1. Invisible people are visible. 
2.Unknown case of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are personally known.
3.The unknown case of the catechumen who desired the baptism of water but dies before he received it and is saved, is a personally known person.
4.There is known salvation outside the Catholic Church for us human beings.
5.We can see people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water.
6.We can physically see non Catholics in Heaven and on earth who are saved without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).
7.There are non Catholics who are dead- men visible and walking  who are saved outside the Church.
8.There are known people in invincible ignorance through no fault of their own, who are saved.
9.There are some Anglicans and Protestants whom we know who are going to Heaven even though they are outside the Catholic Church.
10.There are some non Catholics whom we know, who are dead, and now are in Heaven, even though they were not Catholic.

 With the false premise there are 'objective exceptions' to EENS. There are visible exceptions to the Athanasius Creed, the Nicene Creed is changed, there is a new understanding of the Nicene Creed etc :-
1. The Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation is contradicted.
2. The Nicene Creed in which we say, 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' over the centuries referred  to only one known baptism, the baptism of water.The baptism of desire etc cannot be given to someone like the baptism of water.But now the understanding is ' I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins ( desire,blood and ignorance) and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'.
3. The Apostles Creed says ' we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church'. Over the centuries it was understood that the Holy Spirit guided the Catholic Church and taught that there was no salvation outside the Church.Now  unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance, and LG 8, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, are assumd to be objective examples of salvation outside the Church.
4.In the past three Church Councils defined the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) in the extraordinary Magisterium .It was an 'infallible teaching' for Pope Pius X( Letter of the Holy Offie 1949).Now it is obsolete with their being alleged known salvation outside the Church.
5.Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted with the false premise so they become a rupture with EENS( Feeneyite), the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc.
6.With the false premise the Catechism of Pope Pius X contradict itself. It affirms the strict interpretation of EENS while invincible invincible ignorance is intepreted as referring to personally known non Catholics saved outside the Chuch.Invincible ignorance is not seen as a hypothetical case only.
7.Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus, Ecclesia in Asia, Balamand Declaration  etc were all written upholding the false premise. They did not support exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. So in a subtle way they contradicted EENS(Feeneyite), the Athanasius Creed etc. They did not support the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.They are Christological without the traditional ecclesiocentric ecclesiology. It's Christ without the necessity of membership in the Catholic Church for salvation.
8. Traditional mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church is rejected. Since with the false premise, there is salvation outside the Church.
9.Inter faith marriages which are not Sacraments are common held.It is no more adultery. Since the non Catholic spouse could be saved outside the Church it is assumed. A posibility which could only be known to God is assumed to be a practical exception to EENS and a literally known case of salvation outside the Church in a personal case.
10. There is a new heretical ecclesiology at Holy Mass in all the rites and liturgies. The Latin Mass today does not have the same exclusivist ecclesiology of the Tridentine Rite Mass of the missionaries in the 16th century.

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NOVEMBER 20, 2019 
The National Catholic Reporter reviews of the books  by Fr. Jared Wicks sj and Prof. Paul Lakeland on  Vatican Council II were flawed. The authors made  a mistake ( Graphics)  https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-national-catholic-reporter-reviews.html
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NOVEMBER 20, 2019
The National Catholic Reporter's reviews of the books by Fr. Jared Wicks sj and Prof. Paul Lakeland on  Vatican Council II, were flawed.The authors had made a mistake. Vatican Council II was interpreted  by them with false reasoning.The NCR must admit it. Both authors read the Council superficially. Then they assumed hypothetical cases were objective exceptions to the past ecclesiology of the Church.  This is irrational. So the authors conclusions and those of the editors and correspondents of the NCR  were irrational, non traditional and an artifical rupture with Catholic theology and doctrines on salvation  etc. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-national-catholic-reporters-reviews.html 

NOVEMBER 20, 2019 
 Massimo Faggioli and Michael Sean Winters liberalism was based on an irrational  interpretation of Vatican Council II.The National Catholic Reporter had two  books reviewed, which interpreted Vatican Council II with the superficial and false  reasoning.The books were authored by Paul Lakeland  and Fr. Jared Wicks sj.  https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/massimo-faggiolis-and-michael-sean.html
NOVEMBER 19, 2019
Michael Sean Winters and Massimo Faggioli have converted ? https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/michael-sean-winters-and-massimo.html
NOVEMBER 19, 2019

The Vatican websites in general have a mistake in   the interpretation of Vatican Council II.  https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-vatican-websites-in-general-have.html







Wednesday, March 27, 2024

We are all saying the same thing when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally : Brother Andre Marie micm, Fr. Georges de Laire and the correspondents of the National Catholic Reporter : All are Feeneyites on EENS

 

We are all saying the same thing when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally

 








- Lionel Andrades

from The National Catholic Reporter

In that dispute, the Diocese of Manchester had accused the Saint Benedict Center in Richmond, New Hampshire, of violating canon law, according to Todd & Weld. The Saint Benedict Center and its members, who call themselves, Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, had promoted the position held by their founder, a Jesuit priest named Leonard Feeney, that salvation is only possible through the Catholic Church.

Feeney, who died in 1978, was excommunicated for this view, though he was later reconciled to the church.

The Southern Poverty Law Center also added the center to a list of hate groups in 2007 for its members' antisemitic beliefs.

In 2019, the Diocese of Manchester forbade Catholics from participating in activities with the center and the center from calling itself Catholic because they said that they had warned the group that their position is contrary to Vatican teaching.Right-wing Catholic outlet Church Militant to close in April

https://www.ncronline.org/news/right-wing-catholic-outlet-church-militant-close-april

Tuesday, March 26, 2024

Parents must not allow bishops to bless their children at First Holy Communion and Confirmation unless the bishop and parish priest interpret Vatican Council II rationally and so affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the rest of Tradition, which is not contradicted by the Council. The Holy Spirit cannot have the children be taught irrationality whih is also political


Parents must not allow bishops to bless their children at First Holy Communion and Confirmation unless the bishop and parish priest interpret Vatican Council II rationally and so affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the rest of Tradition, which is not contradicted by the Council. The Holy Spirit cannot have the children be taught irrationality which is also political.

Presently bishops, priests, religious sisters and catechists, teach children and adults to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally, to avoid the Anti Semitic charge.

Parents must check if the parish priest and bishop are in heresy (visible exceptions of LG 16 contradict the dogma EENS and change the understanding of the Creeds) and schism (rupture with the Magisterium of the 16th century on EENS etc). The bishop will be passing this error on to the child at especially the Novus Ordo Mass but also at other liturgies.

If the parish priest and bishop interpret Vatican Council II irrationally they will be passing on heresy and schism to the First Communicant. Presently this is official and public and no one denies it. The conclusion of Vatican Council II , irrational, is always heretical and schismatic.This is the interpretation of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican and the cardinals and bishops in general.

Parents have the right to ask the bishop and parish priest to publically interpret all Magisterial Documents (Creeds, Councils, and Catechisms etc) rationally and so there is no rupture with de fide teachings and Tradition in general. The interpretation is honest and ethical.

 The political, irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II, which produces an artificial and false rupture with Catholic Tradition  and which is part of the main line Catholic Church, is approved by the Chief Rabbinate of Israel and the U.S State Department.

 However Vatican Council II rational, with Lumen Gentium 16 referring to a hypothetical and physically invisible case in 2024, will take the Church back to Tradition and so would be considered Anti Semitic. Vatican Council II, rational, with LG 8, 14, 1, 5, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, referring to non objective cases in the present times, is no more a rupture with the Magisterium and missionaries of the 16th century. There is no break with the ecclesiology of the Roman Missal of that time. There is a return to the old theology of the Roman Missal and traditional ecclesiocentrism. 

The Holy Spirit at the Sacrament of Confirmation cannot ask the child or adult, to interpret Church Documents irrationally to produce new doctrines and a new theology, which says outside the Catholic Church there, is known salvation in the present times and so the dogma EENS is obsolete. 

At the FSSP church in Rome, children being prepared for First Holy Communion and Confirmation must be taught to interpret Vatican Council II rationally, before the bishop is invited to the parish. It would be the same for the Paulist Fathers at the American church of St. Patrick’s’ in Rome. 

It must be the same for priestly ordinations before Cardinal Raymond Burke is invited at the church Santissima Trinita dei Pelligrini, Rome.

At Easter, only those candidates must be accepted into the Catholic Church, who interpret LG 8, 14, 1, 5, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as referring to invisible cases in 2024. This is interpreting the Council rationally. It’s simple.

Today morning I was talking to a Catholic who has finished his theological studies. I told him that over the centuries the Catholic Church was always exclusivist in its theology. He agreed. But added, it was exclusivist until Vatican Council II.

I corrected him. He meant Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally i.e. with Lumen Gentium 16 referring to a physically visible non Catholic saved outside the Church without Catholic faith and the baptism of water. 

There is no such person in our reality.

For me Vatican Council II is not a break with the past ecclesiocentrism of the Church. I am referring to Vatican Council II interpreted rationally. It is important to make the distinction.

Liberals like him, studying at the Gregorian University, Rome, can no more say that Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition and tea<ch this error to children at First Holy Communion and Confirmation.-Lionel Andrades


MARCH 25, 2024

Children at First Holy Communion and Confirmation are not taught to interpret Vatican Council II rationally and so affirm the traditional strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus which was the theological basis for proclaiming the Social Reign of Christ the King in all political legislation, the non separation of the Church and State and the necessity of the Government to be Catholic, to save souls from Hell.Catechists avoid the Anti Semitic charge

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/03/children-at-first-holy-communion-and.html



MARCH 23, 2024

They are teaching error at First Holy Communion and Confirmation classes to avoid being Anti Semitic

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/03/they-are-teaching-error-at-first-holy.html










MARCH 20, 2024



Fr.Georges de Laire, the Judicial Vicar, in the diocese of Manchester in New Hampshire, USA escapes : no Decree issued against him. He issued a Decree against the St.Benedict Center

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/03/frgeorges-de-laire-judicial-vicar-in_20.html



MARCH 15, 2024



In the diocese of Manchester in New Hampshire, USA everyone is interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally to avoid affirming extra ecclesiam nulla salus like Brother Andre Marie micm, Prior, Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, at the St.Benedict Center, Richmond, New Hampshire.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/03/in-diocese-of-manchester-in-new.html


MARCH 15, 2024



Bishop Libasci and Fr. Georges de Laire interpret Vatican Council II with the Fake and not Rational Premise.If they used the Rational Premise it would mean that they affirm the same interpretation of EENS as Brother Andre Marie micm and the St. Benedict Center.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/03/bishop-libasci-and-fr-georges-de-laire.html



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MARCH 16, 2024

We are all saying the same thing when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally

 








- Lionel Andrades

 OCTOBER 18, 2023

Don Paolo Boumis, Parroco, presso la chiesa di San Agapito a Roma accetta il Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica che dice che fuori della Chiesa non c'è salvezza (CCC 846), mentre LG 8,14,15,16,UR3,NA 2 , GS 22 ecc. nel Concilio Vaticano II non sono eccezioni oggettive per CCC 846 e per il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) del Concilio Lateranense IV (1215), che non menzionava alcuna eccezione.


Don Paolo Boumis, Parroco, presso la chiesa di San Agapito a Roma accetta il Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica che dice che fuori della Chiesa non c'è salvezza (CCC 846), mentre LG 8,14,15,16,UR3,NA 2 , GS 22 ecc. nel Concilio Vaticano II non sono eccezioni oggettive per CCC 846 e per il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) del Concilio Lateranense IV (1215), che non menzionava alcuna eccezione. 

Don Paolo Boumis, Parroco, presso la chiesa di San Agapito a Roma accetta il Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica che dice che fuori della Chiesa non c'è salvezza (CCC 846), mentre LG 8,14,15,16,UR3,NA 2 , GS 22 ecc. nel Concilio Vaticano II non sono eccezioni oggettive per CCC 846 e per il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) del Concilio Lateranense IV (1215), che non menzionava alcuna eccezione. Quindi sta affermando l'insegnamento tradizionale secondo cui fuori dalla Chiesa non c'è salvezza, proprio come me. Entrambi stiamo dicendo la stessa cosa.

 Se a Papa Francesco e ai cardinali venisse chiesto se LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA ,2 GS 22 ecc. si riferiscono a casi invisibili nel 2023, anche loro direbbero SÌ, come Don Boumis, i Missionari della Carità di Madre Teresa, il Cardinale Vicario Generale e i Vescovi Ausiliari di Roma. Siamo tutti d'accordo.


Quindi, quando tutti fanno riferimento a 

extra ecclesiam nulla salus è un riferimento
al Concilio Vaticano II. Ad Gentes 7,  dice
che tutti hanno bisogno della fede e del 
battesimo per la salvezza. Quando fanno 
riferimento al dogma EENS si riferiscono
anche al Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica.
- Lionel Andrades

 OCTOBER 18, 2023

Father Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, at the church San Agapito in Rome accepts the Catechism of the Catholic Church which says outside the Church there is no salvation (CCC 846), while LG 8,14,15,16,UR3,NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are not objective exceptions for CCC 846 and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), which did not mention any exceptions.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-parish-priest-at-church.html


https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/don-paolo-boumis-parroco-presso-la.html

JANUARY 30, 2024

Morally we only have the rational option. So this would be the only interpretation of the Auxiliary Bishops of Rome and the religious communities. Annual, renewal of vows will have its foundation only on Vatican Council II interpreted ethically.

 

Fr. Paolo Boumis the Parish Priest at Sant Agapito, Largo Preneste, near Termini, Rome, his assistant priests and the rest of the parish have only one option now. They have to interpret LG 8,14,15,16 etc rationally. So the approved Catechists in the parish would be dishonest if future catechesis was based upon Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally. They cannot continue to interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16 etc, as being visible people in the present times saved outside the Catholic Church.

Morally we only have the rational option. So this would be the only interpretation of the Auxiliary Bishops of Rome and the religious communities. Annual, renewal of vows will have its foundation only on Vatican Council II interpreted ethically.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/01/the-parish-priest-has-to-tell-his.html


OCTOBER 19, 2023

Father Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, of the Church of St. Agapito, near Largo Preneste-Porta Maggiore, Rome, holds the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). He is a Feeneyite on EENS just like me.

 Father Paolo Boumis. Parish Priest, of the Church of St. Agapito, near Largo Preneste-Porta Maggiore, Rome, holds the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). He is a Feeneyite on EENS just like me. He also interprets Vatican Council II rationally in harmony with EENS according to the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) which did not mention any exceptions. He also interprets the Catechism of the Catholic Church in synchrony with the past Catechisms and other Magisterial Documents. It is the same for the Missionaries of Charity of Mother Teresa, Rome and the Vicar General and Auxiliary Bishops of the Rome Vicariate.This is possible since they all agree that LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, refer to invisible cases in 2023. They are always hypothetical cases and so they cannot be practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, in the present times. So their theology becomes traditional when they interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16 etc rationally, i.e invisible people are physically invisible.They return to the past exclusivist ecclesiology and the traditional interpretation of EENS.

Though - many of the above names are denying the Faith in public.They do not affirm the strict interpretation of EENS in public. They suggest that there are exceptions for the dogma EENS, in other words that LG 8,14, 15, 16 refer to physically visible non Catholics, who are practical exceptions for the dogma EENS.This is dishonest.Suggesting that invisible cases of LG 8, 14, 15, 16 etc are visible is unethical.I call this CushingismCushingism is heretical, irrational, schismatic and non traditional.

 Before Muslims, they present themselves as Cushingites and not Feeneyites. However technically, in private, they are Feeneyites when they interpret Vatican Council II etc rationally, i.e invisible cases of LG 8,14, 16 etc, are invisible in 2023-Lionel Andrades



OCTOBER 18, 2023

Father Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, at the church San Agapito in Rome accepts the Catechism of the Catholic Church which says outside the Church there is no salvation (CCC 846), while LG 8,14,15,16,UR3,NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are not objective exceptions for CCC 846 and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), which did not mention any exceptions.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-parish-priest-at-church.html


OCTOBER 12, 2023

Fr.Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, Sant Agapito, Rome, the Missionaries of Charity (Men) of Mother Teresa and the Vicar General Cardinal Angelo Donatis and his Auxiliary Bishops in Rome, agree with me: there are no visible cases of non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of water in 2023

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-parish-priest-sant.html


OCTOBER 10, 2023

For Father Paulo Boumis there are no physically visible cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance but he will continue to have adult catechesis today in which he will interpret BOD and I.I as being physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church, in the present times, who are practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/for-father-paulo-boumis-there-are-no_10.html

OCTOBER 7, 2023



For Fr.Paolo Boumis there are no visible cases in 2023 of a non Catholic saved with the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance and this would also be the view of the priests and lay religious in the parish and also his bishop: It would be the same with the Auxiliary Bishops of Rome and the Vicar General Cardinal Angelo Donatis

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-has-confirmed-that-there.html


OCTOBER 1, 2023



Future popes and cardinals will only be conservative since Vatican Councl II can only be interpreted rationally. This is the only moral choice there is.The Council is then traditional and Feeneyite

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/future-popes-and-cardinals-will-only-be.html

OCTOBER 1, 2023



So at the next Conclave of Cardinals to elect a pope it must be understand that Vatican Council II can only be interpreted rationally and like the Catechism of the Catholic Church of Pope John Paul II, it is traditional and Feeneyite.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/so-at-next-conclave-of-cardinals-to.html

THURSDAY, OCTOBER 19, 2023

Father Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, of the Church of St. Agapito, near Largo Preneste-Porta Maggiore, Rome, holds the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). He is a Feeneyite on EENS just like me.

 Father Paolo Boumis. Parish Priest, of the Church of St. Agapito, near Largo Preneste-Porta Maggiore, Rome, holds the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). He is a Feeneyite on EENS just like me. He also interprets Vatican Council II rationally in harmony with EENS according to the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) which did not mention any exceptions. He also interprets the Catechism of the Catholic Church in synchrony with the past Catechisms and other Magisterial Documents. It is the same for the Missionaries of Charity of Mother Teresa, Rome and the Vicar General and Auxiliary Bishops of the Rome Vicariate.This is possible since they all agree that LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, refer to invisible cases in 2023. They are always hypothetical cases and so they cannot be practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, in the present times. So their theology becomes traditional when they interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16 etc rationally, i.e invisible people are physically invisible.They return to the past exclusivist ecclesiology and the traditional interpretation of EENS.

Though - many of the above names are denying the Faith in public.They do not affirm the strict interpretation of EENS in public. They suggest that there are exceptions for the dogma EENS, in other words that LG 8,14, 15, 16 refer to physically visible non Catholics, who are practical exceptions for the dogma EENS.This is dishonest.Suggesting that invisible cases of LG 8, 14, 15, 16 etc are visible is unethical.I call this CushingismCushingism is heretical, irrational, schismatic and non traditional.

 Before Muslims, they present themselves as Cushingites and not Feeneyites. However technically, in private, they are Feeneyites when they interpret Vatican Council II etc rationally, i.e invisible cases of LG 8,14, 16 etc, are invisible in 2023-Lionel Andrades



OCTOBER 18, 2023

Father Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, at the church San Agapito in Rome accepts the Catechism of the Catholic Church which says outside the Church there is no salvation (CCC 846), while LG 8,14,15,16,UR3,NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are not objective exceptions for CCC 846 and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), which did not mention any exceptions.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-parish-priest-at-church.html


OCTOBER 12, 2023

Fr.Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, Sant Agapito, Rome, the Missionaries of Charity (Men) of Mother Teresa and the Vicar General Cardinal Angelo Donatis and his Auxiliary Bishops in Rome, agree with me: there are no visible cases of non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of water in 2023

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-parish-priest-sant.html


OCTOBER 10, 2023

For Father Paulo Boumis there are no physically visible cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance but he will continue to have adult catechesis today in which he will interpret BOD and I.I as being physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church, in the present times, who are practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/for-father-paulo-boumis-there-are-no_10.html

OCTOBER 7, 2023



For Fr.Paolo Boumis there are no visible cases in 2023 of a non Catholic saved with the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance and this would also be the view of the priests and lay religious in the parish and also his bishop: It would be the same with the Auxiliary Bishops of Rome and the Vicar General Cardinal Angelo Donatis

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-has-confirmed-that-there.html


OCTOBER 1, 2023



Future popes and cardinals will only be conservative since Vatican Councl II can only be interpreted rationally. This is the only moral choice there is.The Council is then traditional and Feeneyite

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/future-popes-and-cardinals-will-only-be.html

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