In the encyclical Lumen Fidei an objective error has been made.Ecclesial faith is extended to Christians in general and does not refer only to Catholics in the encyclical (1). This is a doctrinal and theological error. It contradicts Vatican Council II (AG 7) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church(846) which tell us that with correct faith, the faith that saves, all need to enter the Church 'as through a door' (AG 7,CCC 846), 'all' need 'faith and baptism' for salvation (AG 7) and the Catholic Church is necessary for salvation(AG 7,LG 14).
Lumen Fidei assumes Orthodox Christians, Protestants,Pentecostals and Jehovah's Witnesses( who also believe in Jesus) have this eccelesial faith. The encyclical uses the term ecclesial faith for Christians in general.
It contradicts the magisterial texts- from the Catechism of the Catholic Church of Pope John Paul II to the popes over the centuries , teachings based on John 3:5 and Mark.16:16.
Pope Francis recently expressed this traditional teaching when he said that we cannot find Jesus outside the Church. He was referring to the Catholic Church since he cited Pope Paul VI (Evangelii Nuntiandi) and St.Ignatius of Loyola.
When 'ecclesial faith' is extended to Christians then this meets the agenda of the Masons and the leftists who want an ecumenism and inter religious dialogue leading to a one world religion.
Pope Benedict and Pope Francis in Lumen Fidei extend ecclesial faith to Christians, when there are no known exceptions to 'all needing to enter the Church as through a door' and 'all needing Catholic faith for salvation'.
How can the encyclical ask theologians to accept this new doctrine , this error in what constitutes faith, and to still be faithful to the magisterium? (2)
A common error in the Catholic Church today- and since the 1940's- is to assume there are defacto, known, explicit exceptions to everyone needing ecclesial faith, for salvation, in the Catholic Church.
It is assumed there are personally known, nameable cases of Protestants and other Christians saved 'outside the church',without needing to enter the Church as through a door.It is assumed that they are saved in visible imperfect communion with the Church, visible seeds of the Word and visible elements of sanctification and grace. This is irrational.
The popes do not know any such case in 2013 .So how can the encyclical extend ecclesial faith, which saves,to all Christians?
If a Christian is saved who does not need to enter the Church visibly, it would be known only to God. We can never ever know such a case. We could agree with goodwill, that this is a possibility, if God chooses it, but we cannot claim it is a known reality.
The encylical does not consider this just a possibility but assumes that it is a known reality and so extends ecclesial faith to all Christians.With no known case in real life it builds up a whole new fantasy theology.
Those Christians who are saved 'outside the church' are invisible but the encyclical theology assumes they are visible.This is the dead man walking and visible theology.
MORAL IDOLS IN THE CHURCH
Protestants, evangelicals ,Pentecostals etc do not have Catholic Faith. Since they divorce, contracep and commit other mortal sins and have no access to the Sacraments . This is not a faith which saves and neither is it an ecclesial faith.
This lack of faith among Christians has been overlooked in the encyclical because of the familiar error in the Church, made by the Archbishop of Boston Cardinal Richard Cushing.
His error of being able to see the dead saved in invincible ignorance and the implicit desire, has been extended to morals in particular mortal sin.
New and complicated probablism theories are taught which assume there are known exceptions to mortal sin,as if we can judge these cases in general.
Similarly 'deliberate consent' and 'full knowledge'(CCC1857 Mortal Sin) are assumed to be known to us in general to reject traditional mortal sin and teachings of Pope John Paul II in Veritatis Splendor.
Without traditional mortal sin it is assumed that only faith in Jesus is needed for salvation.This is the Protestant understanding of the faith which saves.
This is not the ecclesial faith of the Catechism of the Catholic Church which tells us that one mortal sin, not Confessed in the Sacrament of Reconciliation is enough for a soul to go to Hell , at the time of death, even with faith in Jesus.
Not all who say 'Lord,Lord' will enter the Kingdom of Heaven(Matt.7:21) but those who do the will of God.It is the will of God that all be united in the Catholic Church (CCC 845), the Catholic Church is the only Ark of Noah that saves in the Flood(CCC 845).
The encyclical implies that Christians in general even with mortal sin and no access to the Sacraments of the Church which save, have an ecclesial faith, the same as Catholics.
The encyclical assumes there are known exceptions , in faith and morals, to traditional Catholic teaching.It makes the Richard Cushing objective error. It is a fact of life that we cannot see the dead.It is a fact of life that we do not know any cases of salvation mentioned in Vatican Council II. It would be objectively wrong to claim so and then build a theology upon it.
-Lionel Andrades
Ecclesial form of Faith
22...Faith is necessarily ecclesial; it is professed from within the body of Christ as a concrete communion of believers. It is against this ecclesial backdrop that faith opens the individual Christian towards all others.
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Faith and theology
36...On the other hand, because it draws its life from faith, theology cannot consider the magisterium of the Pope and the bishops in communion with him as something extrinsic, a limitation of its freedom, but rather as one of its internal, constitutive dimensions, for the magisterium ensures our contact with the primordial source and thus provides the certainty of attaining to the word of Christ in all its integrity.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/07/encyclical-lumen-fidei-states-faith-is.html#links
THE HOLY FATHER POPE BENEDICT XVI IS A CUSHINGITE
Quanto Conficiamus of Pope Pius IX does not say that we know the baptism of desire explicitly
CATHOLIC LAY PROFESSOR AT UNIVERSITA EUROPA DI ROMA AFFIRMS DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/search/label/Corrado%20Gnerre
CATHOLIC PRIESTS IN ROME AGREE WITH FR.LEONARD FEENEY: THERE IS NO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE CAN KNOW OFhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/search/label/Catholic%20priests
Did Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre know that implicit desire,invincible ignorance etc were not known to us and irrelevant to the dogma?
ARCHBISHOP GERHARD MULLER ASSUMES THAT THE DEAD WHO ARE SAVED ARE VISIBLE ON EARTH AND SO EVERY ONE DOES NOT NEED TO ENTER THE CHURCH:NCR interview
SSPX IDENTIFY THE FALSE PREMISE IN PUBLIC AND YOU WILL HAVE CREATED AN INTERPRETATION OF VATICAN COUNCIL II IN ACCORD WITH TRADITION
You cannot be excommunicated for affirming a Vatican Council II in agreement with the Syllabus of Errors and extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION USES PREMISE THAT IS FACTUALLY INCORRECT : LIMBOhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/international-theological-commission_29.html
The International Theological Commission's position paper Christianity and the World Religions 1997 has an objective factual error and is approved by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger : invincible ignorance is not an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salushttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/international-theological-commissions.html
INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION ASSUMES ‘SEEDS OF THE WORD’ (VATICAN COUNCIL II ) IN OTHER RELIGIONS ARE KNOWN TO US AND THIS IS AN EXPLICIT EXCEPTION TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUShttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/international-theological-commission.html
VATICAN'S INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION MAKES AN ERROR IN ITS POSITION PAPER CHRISTIANITY AND THE WORLD RELIGIONShttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/vaticans-international-theological.html
VATICAN COUNCIL II REJECTS THE THEOLOGY OF RELIGIONShttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/vatican-council-ii-rejects-theology-of.html
Former Secretary of the International Theological Commission holds that those saved with the baptism of desire and in invincible ignorance are known to us and so an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salushttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/02/secretary-of-international-theological.html#links
The International Theological Commission's position paper Christianity and the World Religions 1997 has an objective factual error and is approved by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger : invincible ignorance is not an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salushttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/international-theological-commissions.html
INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION ASSUMES ‘SEEDS OF THE WORD’ (VATICAN COUNCIL II ) IN OTHER RELIGIONS ARE KNOWN TO US AND THIS IS AN EXPLICIT EXCEPTION TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUShttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/international-theological-commission.html
VATICAN'S INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION MAKES AN ERROR IN ITS POSITION PAPER CHRISTIANITY AND THE WORLD RELIGIONShttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/vaticans-international-theological.html
VATICAN COUNCIL II REJECTS THE THEOLOGY OF RELIGIONShttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/vatican-council-ii-rejects-theology-of.html
Former Secretary of the International Theological Commission holds that those saved with the baptism of desire and in invincible ignorance are known to us and so an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salushttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/02/secretary-of-international-theological.html#links
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